tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post203079532367453533..comments2024-03-12T11:27:58.144+13:00Comments on Black Poison Soul: Making the EffortBlack Poison Soulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-48020748980315505642014-08-27T08:52:51.911+12:002014-08-27T08:52:51.911+12:00It would be amusing to find out if his Spacebunny ...It would be amusing to find out if his Spacebunny is an Italian girl, therefore placing him solidly into the (B) category which he has contempt for. Though the fact that he expatted to Italy also puts him into the (B) category.<br /><br />So: his mental disconnect becomes doubly-strong if Spacebunny is a non-American girl. Which I definitely get the vibe that she is.<br /><br />Hypocrisy now.Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-14980090144638069812014-08-25T19:15:47.189+12:002014-08-25T19:15:47.189+12:00The big problem with Vox's argument is that yo...The big problem with Vox's argument is that you eventually run out of marriageable women. There are only so many of them to go around, and its not possible for all men to find one. Some men are going to be left with the choice of A. marrying a Tinder whore, B. importing a bride from abroad (or expatriating) or C. just not marrying at all. Vox says he isn't advocating A, yet he clearly has a very low opinion of men who choose either B or C. Hmm. Retrenchedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07704823223225046679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-15411011357770526282014-08-15T07:22:49.582+12:002014-08-15T07:22:49.582+12:00Yep, PUA comes from a mindset of pussy-worship. Th...Yep, PUA comes from a mindset of pussy-worship. Think I've mentioned that a few times, motivations and the like.<br /><br />Of course, the PUA gurus who make money off PUA, have it in their self-interest to push the pussy-worship. It's where they get their $$$<br /><br />I once got sucked in by Amway (before I analysed it and realised what a manipulative crock of shit it and other MLMs typically are). Some parts of the PUA $ machine remind be very strongly of the Amway model.Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-82594370809032323202014-08-15T07:19:16.452+12:002014-08-15T07:19:16.452+12:00It would also have been nice had he pointed out wh...It would also have been nice had he pointed out where to find someone who isn't gonna pull the divorce trick - with an absolute certainty. As I've said previously: I don't like playing Russian Roulette with half the chambers loaded.<br /><br />It seems as though he has a bit of a mental disconnect. Yeah, I'd like to have kids and bring 'em up right. Find me a non-eat-pray-fuck type. Keep looking? I'm bored with looking, plus I have better things to do with my cash (the fruits of my working time) and my spare time.Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-20453840465650225442014-08-15T04:25:15.218+12:002014-08-15T04:25:15.218+12:00The root problem is pussy worship. Most PUA's ...The root problem is pussy worship. Most PUA's fall victim to it too. They just go about it differently. Nomineehttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-2810211851059628402014-08-15T02:30:46.995+12:002014-08-15T02:30:46.995+12:00"This observation is supported by the reactio..."This observation is supported by the reaction some have had to the statement of the completely obvious that if civilized men do not manage to reproduce and instill civilized values in their sons, civilization will not survive. To somehow summarize that as a call to "man up and marry those sluts" is to miss the point so profoundly that I don't even know where to begin pointing out the errors."<br /><br />It would have been nice for him to make the effort to begin pointing out the errors, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-8244841289348992362014-08-14T23:23:25.690+12:002014-08-14T23:23:25.690+12:00Regarding the alpha, beta, omega thing. I've a...Regarding the alpha, beta, omega thing. I've always found it best to think of them as behavior sets:<br /><br />Alpha are behaviors or traits that women find attractive. Lover<br />Beta are behaviors and traits that women find nice, but don't do anything one way or another with attraction husband<br />Omega are repulsive behaviors and traits. creep<br /><br />The rest isn't necessary. Just as women have three sets.<br /><br />Whore - sexually available, sex traits. Playmate<br />Madonna - nice traits especially for ltr, but really don't do anything for attraction. Wife<br />Ugly - both inside and out, traits that repulse. FeministRas Al Ghulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-862063234148246572014-08-14T19:04:29.057+12:002014-08-14T19:04:29.057+12:00Anything is possible Bob. In some ways it's no...Anything is possible Bob. In some ways it's nonsense, in other ways it's as good a label as any other. I myself lean towards BoneCrkr's definitions, when I feel the need to bother with definitions - not hugely often these days.<br /><br />As always, pick out the pieces that are relevant to you and ignore the rest. Just like with my posts. I certainly don't expect what I say to be a one-size-fits-all, and after thinking and talking have even come around to different conclusions also.<br /><br />Its all how we learn and think and grow.Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-12022468118630198002014-08-14T18:59:41.557+12:002014-08-14T18:59:41.557+12:00I often agree with him too, quite a bit of what he...I often agree with him too, quite a bit of what he says seems to make sense to me. This one though seemed tremendously off-base. I guess that's why I felt the urge to analyse and speak out about it in my own rebuttal.<br /><br />Yes indeed to his doing his personal MGTOW thing in Italy and finding his Spacebunny. Good on him for those things. I wonder if he realizes that he's actually his own form of MGTOW - which is partly why I thought it odd his post basically denigrating them.<br /><br />Regarding Alphas/Sigmas: I think that might be because as human beings we try to identify ourselves with part of a herd, and of course we like to think we're the best, etc - at least in our own eyes. Its an ego thing. When someone starts labelling a certain segment as losers it tends to get people's back up (so you could state that I got my back up and did my response/rebuttal).<br /><br />It is a personal attack and nobody likes being attacked. Which is probably why Leftists and Feminists can easily dish out the attacking language, yet have great issues taking it in return. They get reduced to ad-hominem personal shaming attacks, like "you can't get laid", etc. ("Pretty much everybody can get laid, it just depends if you really want the one who is targeting you. Next attack please.")<br /><br />Regarding civilization, I think that it is in a world-wide decline. While I haven't travelled extensively I have managed to visit: America (several times), Australia, England, Germany, and Thailand - plus I've been around Chinese and Latino (Argentinian) women. The basic female drives are still evident in each place even if fresh off the boat and into the country (I think Russia et al also). The only difference is their overt attitude towards men and how long that might last. Covert, I've seen some pretty nasty stuff come out over time.<br /><br />Skin in the game: you have a very good point there. I wouldn't mind keeping certain parts of civilization - however I get the feeling that there will be an orgy of destruction and it will be hard to pick and choose. It might all come down.Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-11402697756439459402014-08-14T17:52:23.091+12:002014-08-14T17:52:23.091+12:00I completely dismiss all that Alpha/Beta nonsense....I completely dismiss all that Alpha/Beta nonsense. Day and Roissy are close to being frauds, seeing that the mix ancient wisdom with the nonsense they pulled out of their asses.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-29134397851714927802014-08-14T17:45:45.210+12:002014-08-14T17:45:45.210+12:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395564333682113597.post-49483431846829661382014-08-14T16:30:02.334+12:002014-08-14T16:30:02.334+12:00While I often agree with him (although not always)...While I often agree with him (although not always) I'm glad someone called him out on it.<br /><br />His statements are very similar to ones that I've heard regarding "alphas" (and sigmas). A real alpha (or sigma) doesn't go around proclaiming himself as such, he just is. And anyone that does, is insecure about their real social sexual rank (and yes yes, he was a cad and yes yes Spacebunny). But that's the type of argument he's using.<br /><br />And as you pointed out. What exactly is he trying to save? What part of western civilization is worth keeping. Its legal system is corrupt and tyrannical. Its political system is corrupt and decadent, the vast majority of the women are damaged beyond repair. The culture is both anti male and anti white (the two combined, white men, have been (past tense) the greatest creative force this world has every seen.)<br /><br />Christianity? even he acknowledges that only a very small percentage are actually Christian. He fled the United States (if that's not MGTOW I don't know what it is.). And the injustice done to his father, has colored his way of looking at things. If one really wanted to take his position that "the hero is the one that runs toward the gun fire" then fleeing to Italy from the center of the battle for western civilization seems to be an action that is less than heroic. I don't fault him for it, I'd flee too if I could.<br /><br />The way I see it, MGTOW is men recognizing that the social contract is broken (marriage being the biggest part of it)and they are therefore free to act as they will since it was the other parties that broke that contract.<br /><br />The only way to "save" civilization is to pull down what is currently crumbling around us. And the only way to do that, without sacrificing yourself and loved ones is to starve the beast, to become MGTOW.<br /><br />And now we're really getting to the heart of why some in the sphere want to save civilization: They have skin in the game. Its really hard to recognize that something is evil and will always be evil and that the only way to be successful is oppose it, when you have children that will suffer more when the inevitable collapse occurs.<br /><br />It has taken a while for a lot of the pro-marriage men at Dalrock's to finally come around to the idea that marriage just does not exist anymore. At some point there will be a recognition that the west as it is, cannot be saved.<br />Ras Al Ghulnoreply@blogger.com